november 2004
TUESDAY 30/11/04

booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47815=1C99 last night/ 1A99 2200 Penzance-Paddington tonight.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol (5905 locked out of use at Holyhead end as it has been since Friday night due to lights failure).

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47150, 47843, 47847=8T45 Basford Hall-Gresty Lane trips (see news).
  • 47197=0S30 Basford Hall-Mossend(!)/ 5Z25 0720 Polmadie-Brent Sidings.
  • 47270=4B62 0850 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 0B62 0947 Felixstowe-Ipswich/ 4R74 1353 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 4R21 1547 Felixstowe-Ipswich.
  • 47303=0Z00 0135 CreweLNWR-Basford Hall/ 4M37 2135 Tilbury-Garston from Basford Hall/ 0K38 0503 Garston-Basford Hall/ 0F92 1030 Basford Hall-Ditton/ 4L92 1350 Ditton-Ipswich to Basford Hall.
  • 47316=0Z47 0537 Norwich-MoD Longtown/ 5Z47 1951 (dep 1723) MoD Longtown-Oxley (with 12129/135/124/070/052,11066/013,17173,11033,10235,12110 – ‘Compass Tours’ ECS).
  • 47805=dead in tow on 4M26 1200 Dagenham Dock-Gresty Lane (AWS fault).
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z11 1119 Bedford-Hornsey/ 5Z12 1300 Hornsey-Bedford/ 6X51 1734 Bedford-Selhurst.
  • 47816=5G22 0013 Stafford-Oxley.
  • 47818=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47843=4M73 2306 (29/11) Ipswich-Ditton (from Basford Hall on 30/11)/ 0K72 0621 Ditton-Basford Hall/ 8T45 Basford Hall-Gresty Lane trips/ light to Brent Yard/ 5Z25 0720 Polmadie-Brent from Basford Hall (ECS for ‘one’)/ 5X25 1825 Brent Sidings-Norwich/ 0Z26 2240 Norwich-Dagenham Dock.
  • 47851=0Z40 0500 Willesden-Rugby/ 0Z40 0704 Rugby-Bletchley/ 0Z50 2028 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47200=Ipswich. 47237=Carlisle(out of traffic). 47298=CreweDRS. 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47355=Derby. 47358=Soton MT (out of traffic). 47501=CreweLNWR(exgine shut down repairs). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(out of traffic). 47810=Oxley. 47811=Landore. 47813=Norwich. 47826=Longsight. 47830=Longsight. 47832=Oxley. 47840=Wembley. 47841=Oxley. 47853=Crewe(unavailable). 47853=Carnforth. 57602=1C99. 57603=Old Oak Common. 57604=Old Oak Common(ECS). 57605=Laira.
    47828 is now in the SBXL (Porterbrook off lease pool) but still at Willesden. It joins 47290 and 47345 as 47's in that pool (one of these is presumably 57316?)

    news:

  • Freightliner liveried 47258 was seen heading north on the M1 today, passing between junctions 29 and 30 around 1320, looking intact except for a few broken cab windows. Presumably the loco was going for scrap?
  • 47150, 843, and 847 were today involved on the Basford Hall-Gresty Lane (fuel?) trips, usually this is just one loco so possibly they are running top’n’tail today? 150 was allocated to work it all day, with 843 working early on and 847 working later.
  • 47303's workings were its first since 1st October.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, 47829, D1069, Gob, Leeds Chicken, Riot, Spin, Jon Folwell, Kevin Melia.
    MONDAY 29/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47810=1G09 1106 Euston-BNS (from Bletchley, 87001 failed)/ see below.
  • 47815=1C99 2350 Paddington-Penzance tonight.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47150=6O46 2240 Basford Hall-Southampton Western Docks (began last night)/ 6M16 1348 Southampton Western Docks-Crewe Gresty Lane.
  • 47197=0S30 1130 Basford Hall-Mossend Yard.
  • 47355=0Z21 0722 Derby RTC-Derby RTC via Crewe, Lichfield, Stafford, Stoke, Derby, Leicester, Nuneaton, Leicester and Loughborough.
  • 47501=light engine from Carlisle Kingmoor-Crewe LNWR (arrived 2135) alone?
  • 47805=0Z66 0605 Dagenham Dock-Ashford Chart Leacon/ 5Z66 1053 Chart Leacon-Ilford (two barrier vans)/ 0Z66 1445 Ilford-Dagenham Dock.
  • 47810=see above/ 5G09 1300 BNS-Oxley.
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z10 0832 Rugby-Bedford (two barrier vans)/ 5Z11 1119 Befdford-Hornsey (317304 + 317313)/ 5Z12 1402 Hornsey-Bedford (317305 + 317316).
  • 47815=0C99 0002 Paddington-Old Oak Common/ 0A99 0520 Old Oak Common-Paddington/ 5A99 0736 Paddington-Old Oak Common/ rear of 5C99 2114 Old Oak Common-Paddington/ see above.
  • 47818=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47840=0Z05 0005 Willesden-Euston/ 5A77 0120 Euston-Wembley (87007 dead in tow and set).
  • 47843=0Z11 1600 Earls Sidings-Basford Hall.
  • 47854 + 57601=7Z57 1030 Carnforth-Stockton on Tees (20 KVA wagons for scrap)/ 0Z47 1800 Stockton-Carnforth.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47200=Ipswich.

    news:

  • 47114 moved by road from Basford Hall to Booths of Rotherham for scrap today.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, D1069, Gaz47422, Gob, Leeds Chicken, Riot, Lewis Bevan, Alan Crawshaw, Mat Robinson, Tim Ward.
    SUNDAY 28/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47816=1P18 1555 Crewe-Preston/ 1A73 1811 Preston-Crewe/ 1P22 1955 Crewe-Preston.

    other allocations and workings:

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Rugby. 47811=Landore. 47815=Old Oak(ECS). 47816=see above. 47826=Preston. 47830=Edge Hill. 47839=Holyhead. 47840=Willesden. 47841=Oxley(ECS). 47851=Bletchley. 47853=CreweLNWR.

    news:

  • 1P24 2155 Crewe-Preston should have been 47816 (still going, should go off lease THIS week) but 57313 failed so 816 worked 1P22 two hours earlier.
  • 47776 and 47786 were moved from Warrington during the week to Healey Mills and went to Knottingley today for defuelling.

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, Leeds Chicken, Mat Robinson .
    THURSDAY 25/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47815=1C99 last night/ 1A99 2200 Penzance-Paddington tonight.
  • 47839=1D75 (from Chester?)/ 1K78 1735 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D84 2017 Crewe-Holyhead (on time at Rhyl).
  • 47851=1G04 0836 Euston-Wolves from Milton Keynes-Birmingham International (TPWS fault on 87021).
  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe to Chester.
  • 153353=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe from Chester-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead to Chester (then see 175002).
  • 175002=1D65 from Chester/ 1K67/ 1D75 to Chester?.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47816=0Z70 0510 Longsight-Rugeley Trent Valley/ 0Z71 0639 Rugeley-Stafford/ 0Z72 2155 Stafford-Longsight.
  • 47818=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47841=0Z40 0530 Willesden-Rugby (with 851)/ 0Z50 2129 Rubgy-Willesden (with 851).
  • 47851=0Z40 0530 Willesden-Rugby (with 841)/ 0Z40 0741 Rugby-Bletchley/ see above/ 0Z50 2010 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2129 Rugby-Willesden (with 841).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Willesden(exam). 47811=Landore. 47815=see above. 47816=see above. 47826=Willesden(exam). 47828=Willesden(available!) 47830=Willesden. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=Willesden(exam). 47841=see above. 47851=see above. 47853=see above. 57602=1C99 tonight. 57603=Old Oak Common. 57604=Laira(exam). 57605=Old Oak Common(ECS).
    Cotswold Rail:
    Colchester=47813.
    Ipswich=47200.
    Norwich=47316, 47714(x), 47818.
    DRS:
    Carlisle Kingmoor=47237(x), 47501(x), 47802(x).
    Crewe=47298.
    Fragonset:
    Derby RTC=47145, 47355.
    Oxley=47703, 47709, 47832.
    Freightliner:
    Basford Hall=47150, 47197, 47843, 47847.
    Bedford=47812, 47829.
    Crewe LNWR= 47303, 47848.
    Dagenham Dock=47805.
    Ipswich=47270.
    Southampton Maritime ‘shunters’=47309, 47358.

    news:

  • 47853 worked 1K57 to Chester only following an incident at Saltney Junction. A SPAD (signal passed at danger) occured, passing a red signal by 100 yards, although it seems the single reverted from single yellow to red as the train approached.
  • Rumours surrounding class 37's have unfortunately not gone away in the last few days, meetings seem to have occured by relevant parties with the intention on having the through wired 37 hauled set in NORTH Wales and not down the 'Marches' route. Judging by emails read this seems to be instead of 47's, rather than in addition to, but on the 1H44/ 1D37/ 1H52/ 1D45 diagram. How 80mph loco's will keep to schedules is unknown.......
    Riviera's contract to provide 47's and stock had been extended into next year. It is not known if this has changed.
    20:45 update on the above, the latest expected 'hauled' turn is: 1Hxx 0727 Chester-Manchester, 1D37 1000 Manchester-Holyhead, 1H52 13xx Holyhead-Manchester, 1D46 1746(ish) Manchester-Chester.
    Again, whether this is a 47 hauled turn, or a 37 hauled turn in addition or in place of 47's is not known.
    21:30 update (see this is why I didn't mention any of these rumours until now!!!), from two different sources I hear that the 37 plan is non existant, and that the 47 hauled turn will finish on January 1st (2005). Hmm.
    23:50 update - an email received mentions that the through wired stock is in poor condition, the loco's only do 80mph, there are no spare through wired sets, and drivers are not trained on 37's being the reasons why it isn't happening with 37's, the same reasons I never mentioned it here until somebody brought up that there had allegedly been union meetings happening today regarding drivers re-signing 37's!
  • And finally...
    "Cant get enough Duff?" The unfortunate title on First Great Westerns 'Events and Attractions' web page with reference to December 11th's 47 farewell. The term 'duff' was created by enthusiasts and bashers of other classes many years ago, as 47's were common and turned up frequently on trains that were booked to be hauled by other classes, with the dictionary showing the word as meaning 'bad, useless' (and also a kind of boiled pudding!) Oddly it also means 'to manipulate, so as to look like new' (ie: to duff up). Through the years it has been pointed out by many people to many people, that if you have an interest in 47's - then why call them 'duffs'? The 47 following has increased substantially since they have become rare, and thankfully 'duff' references have decreased recently with exception to a 'name that Duff' quote in 'Traction' magazine when they named 851, and this FGW site quote.
    FGW's page can be visited     here. Homer Simpson can be seen booking his ticket here.
  • 47336 moved from Basford Hall for scrap today at Booths of Rotherham.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47829, D1069, Gob, Leeds Chicken, Riot, Spin, Alan Crawshaw, Mat Robinson .
    WEDNESDAY 24/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47815=1C99 2350 Paddington-Penzance tonight.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe.
  • 47851=1G02 0736 Euston-Wolves from Rugby (NRN radio fault on 87019).
  • 47853=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47197=4K58 Seaforth-Basford Hall.
  • 47815=dead on rear 5C99 2114 Old Oak CS-Paddington/ then see above.
  • 47816=0Z47 0930 Longsight-Stockport, 0949 Stockport-Manchester Victoria via Denton, 1016 Man Vic-Salford Crescent, 1031 Sal Cres-Man Vic, 1037 Man Vic-Stockport, 0Z48 1130 Stockport-Stalybridge, 1158 Stalybridge-Man Vic, 1225 Man Vic-Stalybridge, 1252 Stalybridge-Stockport, 1323 Stockport-Longsight (route learner).
  • 47818=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47830=0Z40 0530 Willesden-Euston/ 0Z40 0546 Euston-Rugby (with 851)/ 0Z40 0741 Rugby-Bletchley/ 0Z50 2010 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2129 Rugby-Willesden (with 841 + 851).
  • 47841=0A60 1400 Oxley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2129 Rugby-Willesden (with 830 + 851).
  • 47843=0Z25 0030 Kingsland Road-Basford Hall/ xxxx Basford Hall-Southampton/ 6M16 1348 Southampton Western Docks-Crewe Gresty Lane.
  • 47851=0Z40 0546 Euston-Rugby (with 830)/ see above/ 0Z50 2129 Rubgy-Willesden (with 830 + 841).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47150=Basford Hall. 47197=see above. 47200=Ipswich. 47270=Ipswich. 47303=CreweLNWR. 47309=Millbrook(shunter,15mph max). 47316=Norwich. 47358=Southampton Maritime(shunter). 47714=Norwich. 47805=Basford Hall. 47810=Willesden(exam). 47811=Landore. 47812=Bedford. 47813=Norwich. 47815=see above. 47816=see above. 47818=see above. 47826=Willesden(exam). 47829=Bedford. 47830=see above. 47839=see above. 47840=Willesden(exam). 47841=see above. 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall. 47851=see above. 47853=see above. 57602=1A99 tonight.57603=Old Oak Common(ECS). 57604=Laira(exam). 57605=Old Oak Common.
    Other loco's are at usual locations except: 47298=Crewe.

    news:

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, Leeds Chicken, Riot, Spin, Tim Ward, Keith Webber.
    TUESDAY 23/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47358=4O27 0520 Trafford Park-Southampton.
  • 47813=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47816=0Z40 0530 Willesden-Rugby (with 830)/ 0Z50 2129 Rugby-Willesden (with 830).
  • 47830=0Z40 0530 Willesden-Rugby (with 816)/ 0Z40 0741 Rugby-Bletchley/ 0Z50 2010 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2129 Rugby-Willesden (with 816).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47150=Basford Hall. 47197=Basford Hall. 47200=Ipswich. 47270=Ipswich. 47303=CreweLNWR. 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=Norwich. 47358=see above. 47714=Norwich(exam). 47805=Basford Hall. 47810=Willesden. 47811=Landore. 47812=Bedford. 47813=see above. 47815=Old Oak Common. 47816=see above. 47818=Norwich(exam)/Colchester later(off exam). 47826=Willesden. 47829=Bedford. 47830=see above. 47839=see above. 47840=Longsight. 47841=Polmadie. 47843=Basford Hall. 47847=Basford Hall(exam). 47851=Euston. 47853=CreweLNWR(exam). Other loco’s in usual locations except:
    47298=Crewe.

    news:

  • With regards the ‘guess the location’ photo (provided by Beekeeper) of 47825 in Intercity Mainline livery. Of the people who guessed only one person got the location wrong (no it wasn’t Brighton). Only one person mentioned the correct year – which was 1993. Other guesses ranged from 1986 through to the late ‘90’s.
    The location was Dover Marine station, or Dover Western Docks as it had become at the time of the photograph, the station closed a year after the photo in 1994 when the Channel Tunnel opened. Last report of the site was a year ago, the site was being redeveloped and the tracks had gone, although the trainshed canopy of the station is still there as it is a listed building (any photo’s available?). 47825 was in a period of operation in the ILRA pool and can now be found occasionally making American sounding noises upon the front of charter trains through the West Coast Railway Co. as 57601, but on the occasion of the photograph it happily contained a Sulzer power unit and had worked 1O99 0644 Liverpool Lime Street-Dover Western Docks and was running round its stock to work 1M79 1412 Dover-Liverpool, on 13th April 1993.
    47839 apparently worked the final train to the station in August 1994. Correct location guesses were submitted by: Anthead, Eóbhann, Mobile, Nelson, Lewis Bevan, Richard Boyd, Rupert Chambers, Matt Dodd, Dave Hall, Steve Kibble, John Lancaster, Kevin Melia, John Myers, R D Oxborough, John Turner, Neil Walkling (correct year), Nigel Williams, and several others whose names were not on their emails.
  • Following a request for timings for FGW's 47 farewell additional on December 11th, the following have been provided but are now two months old so may have changed:
    0718 Paddington, 0747 Reading, then via Swindon and Melksham, then stopping at St Austell, Truro, and 1300 Penzance. In addition it will be stopping at Exeter or Plymouth for a crew change. Return working leaves at:
    1410 Penzance, and calls at Truro, St Austell, PLYMOUTH, Reading, and 2010 Paddington.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Gob, Riot, Spin, John Turner, Keith Webber.
    MONDAY 22/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47813=1P22 1200 London-Norwich throughout.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47358=4M40 2034 Southampton-Trafford Park throughout.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47840=Bletchley. 47851=Euston. 57310=1R19(with mk3 set).

    news:

  • The FGW '47 farewell' additional service on Saturday 11th December will be worked by 47813 (of Cotswold Rail, still in FGW livery), and 47815.
    After this working 47815 will join Riviera Trains at Crewe. It has been confirmed that 47805, 812, 829, 843, 847 and 848 will be joining the Riviera fleet at some point although will be remainging working for Freightliner for now.
    Of the other Riviera 47's, 769 is currently having its badly corroded buffer beams repaired by Riley & Son at Bury, and more good news - 575 was started up for the first time two weeks ago and has only small electrical faults. It will be repainted by Harry Needle Railroad Co. at Barrow Hill in to its current 'Parcels' livery and renamed City of Hereford. On completion it will be moved to Bury for storage until it is needed.

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Eóbhann, Gwot, John Foston, 'N.Tennant', other sources.
    SUNDAY 21/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:
    Errrm, none!

    other allocations and workings:

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Rugby. 47811=Landore. 47815=Old Oak(ECS). 47816=Oxley(ECS’s). 47826=Rugby. 47830=Oxley(ECS’s). 47839=Holyhead(spare). 47840=Longsight. 47841=Polmadie. 47851=Willesden. 47853=CreweLNWR(exam). 57301=1A29etc. 57302=1A39etc. 57303=Crewe. 57304=1A44. 57305=1F15etc. 57306=1A49etc. 57307=Loughborough. 57308=Oxley(ECS’s). 57309=1A58etc. 57310=1A35/1P14/1A54/1D25. 57311=Carstairs. 57312=Lougborough. 57313=Willesden(failure). 57314=Longsight(exam). 57315(!)=Loughborough.

    news:

  • 47828 is shortly to be acquired by Cotswold Rail, and will joing 813 and 818 in being fitted with green circle multiple working equipment. 714 has already been completed.
  • It is currently expected that sometime in the new year, Riviera Trains will purchase 47805, 812, 829, 843, 847 and 848 from Porterbrook. All six are currently on hire to Freightliner and may continue to work trains for Freightliner if the move happens, although being hired from Riviera Trains rather than from Porterbrook. Crewe LNWR currently do most of the maintenance work to these loco's so it is presumed this will continue. Several months ago there had been some disturbing rumours that four of these loco's were to become 57's for Scotrail, which would be a waste of ETH fitted loco's when Brush have been fitting 47/0's with ETH on conversion to 57's.
  • On a related note 47843 (previously avoided by Arriva Trains Wales following two major failures on Rugby days causing hundreds of minutes of delays) managed to complete the trip to Cardiff and back with no major faults yesterday, Riviera/Crewe LNWR/Freightliner/Arriva continuing to dispel the idea that 47s had become unreliable because of their age!
  • Friday and Saturday news added below, other news for last week updated also.
  • 47355 was indeed dead on the rear of last weekends formation to the NRM, with 45112 (not 115! hmm) on the front (updated accordingly below).

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Leeds Chicken, Neil, Calum Hepplewhite.
    SATURDAY 20/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.
  • 47843=1Z80 1221 Crewe-Cardiff Central/ see below/ 1Z68 2010 Cardiff Central-Crewe (both vice 67 due to driver availability).
  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47105=1600 Toddington-Cheltenham Racecourse/ 1650 Cheltenham Racecourse-Toddington.
  • 47197=0Z76 1130 Basford Hall-Old Dalby/ 4Z76 1640 Old Dalby-Basford Hall (two barrier vans).
  • 47270=4R54 0845 Felixstowe-Ipswich/ 4R62 0930 Ipswich-Felixstowe.
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z50 1042 Bedford-Basford Hall (two barrier vans).
  • 47815=0A99 0520 Old Oak Common-Paddington/ 5A99 0736 Paddington-Old Oak Common.
  • 47816=0Z40 0450 Willesden-Bletchley via Rugby (with 830)/ 0Z50 2007 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0G96 2048 Rugby-Oxley (with 830).
  • 47830=0Z40 0450 Willesden-Bletchley to Rugby (with 816)/ 0G96 2048 Rugby-Oxley (with 816).
  • 47843=0C00 0000 Basford Hall-Crewe LNWR/ 5Z80 1158 Crewe LNWR-Crewe/ see above/ 5V80 1447 Cardiff Central-Cardiff Canton/ 5Z66 1950 Cardiff Canton-Cardiff Central/ see above.
  • 47853=0Z00 1800 Crewe-Crewe LNWR (left around 1000!)

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47150=Basford Hall(battery recharging). 47197=see above. 47200=Ipswich. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(engine repairs). 47270=see above. 47298=Crewe. 47303=CreweLNWR(brake repairs). 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=Norwich. 47355=DerbyRTC. 47358=Southampton Maritime. 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-heat exchanger). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47712=DerbyRTC(repairs-generator). 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-voltage regulator). 47805=Crewe Electric(tyre turning complete). 47810=Willesden. 47811=Landore. 47812=see above. 47813=Norwich. 47815=see above. 47816=see above. 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=Willesden. 47828=Willesden(exam, off lease). 47829=see above. 47830=see above. 47832=Oxley. 47839=see above. 47840=Longsight. 47841=Polmadie. 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall(repairs-coolant leak, assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric on 23/11). 47848=CreweLNWR(still on decision). 47851=Willesden(exam). 47853=see above(then assigned for brake blocking at CreweLNWR). 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • The North West drags tomorrow should all be 57’s unless 47840 at Longsight manages to make an appearance deputising on a loco hauled set.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Gob, Steve G.
    FRIDAY 19/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47150=dead in tow on 0C26 1530 Carlisle-Basford Hall.
  • 47197=4M73 2306 Ipswich-Basford Hall(began last night)/ 0K72 0621 Ditton-Basford Hall/ 4Z42 1510 Basford Hall-Ditton/ 0Z42 1630 Ditton-Basford Hall.
  • 47270=4R54 0703 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 4R11 1147 Felixstowe-Ipswich.
  • 47316=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47358=4O14 0435 Garston FLT-Southampton Maritime.
  • 47812 + 47829 t’n’t=5Z11 1102 Bedford-Hornsey/ 5Z12 1419 Hornsey-Bedford.
  • 47815=0A99 0520 Old Oak-Paddington/ 5A99 0736 Paddington-Old Oak/ 5C99 2114 Old Oak-Paddington/ 0C99 2358 Paddington-Old Oak.
  • 47826=0Zxx Euston-Willesden (arr 2230).
  • 47841=0D30 1000 Carlisle-Polmadie.
  • 47843=0T45 1700 Basford Hall-Gresty Lane/ 8T45 1720 Gresty Lane-Basford Hall.
  • 57306 with 47840 dead in tow=0H88 0720 Polmadie-Longsight (cancelled at Carlisle)/ 0H88 1330 Carlisle-Longsight (840 apparently has ‘multiple failures’).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47150=Carlisle(flat batteries recharged). 47197=see above. 47200=Ipswich. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(engine repairs). 47270=see above. 47298=Crewe. 47303=CreweLNWR(cylinder liner repairs completed, then brake repairs later). 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=see above. 47355=DerbyRTC. 47358=see above. 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-heat exchanger). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47712=DerbyRTC(repairs-generator). 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-voltage regulator). 47805=Crewe Electric(tyre turning). 47810=Willesden(exam). 47811=Landore. 47812=see above. 47813=Norwich. 47815=see above. 47816=Willesden. 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=Euston. 47828=Willesden(exam, off lease). 47829=see above. 47830=Willesden. 47832=Oxley. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=see above. 47841=see above. 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall(repairs-coolant leak, assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric on 23/11). 47848=CreweLNWR(still on decision). 47851=Willesden(exam). 47853=see above. 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • 47234 was officially reclassified and renumbered to 57315 today. 57313 and 57314 were formerly 47371 and 47372 respectively.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Gob, David Wood.
    THURSDAY 18/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47816=1B76 1606 Wolves-Euston from Bletchley (87025 failed).
  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47270=4B62 0850 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 0B62 0947 Felixstowe-Ipswich/ 4B08 1958 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 4B47 2127 Felixstowe-Ipswich.
  • 47358=4M98 1824 Southampton Maritime-Garston.
  • 47805=0Z00 0250 Basford Hall-Crewe Electric (for tyre turning).
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z11 1102 Bedford-Hornsey (829 hauling).
  • 47813=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47816=0Z40 0500 Willesden-Bletchley via Rugby (with 830 to Rugby)/ see above/ 5Z14 Euston-Wembley/ 0Z14 Wembley-Willesden.
  • 47830=0Z40 0500 Willesden-Rugby (with 816)/ 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden (alone).
  • 47843=dead in tow on 4O11 1852 Coatbridge-Millbrook beginning last night from Basford Hall behind 66537/ 6M16 1348 Southampton Western Docks-Gresty Lane.
  • 57603 (not 47815)=0A99 0520 Old Oak-Paddington/ 5A99 0736 Paddington-Old Oak/ 5C99 2114 Old Oak-Paddington/ 0C99 2358 Paddington-Old Oak.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    more loco's at the next update...
    47810=Willesden(exam). 47811=Landore. 47812+47829=Bedford. 47813=see above. 47815=Old Oak Common. 47816=see above. 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=Euston(light engine from Wembley last night). 47828=Willesden(exam). 47830=see above. 47832=Oxley. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=Polmadie. 47841=Carlisle. 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall(coolant leak, assigned to Crewe Electric for tyre turning on 23/11). 47851=Willesden(exam). 47853=see above. 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • Not strictly relevant I know, but it answers the reason for the delays last night and provides you with the opportunity to laugh at 57’s and Pendolino’s. 1K78 (853) arrived on time at Crewe but was not allowed to depart until 23 minutes after departure time due to 175108 suffering a total loss of air between Crewe and Chester (at Tattenhall) on 1D83. 1D84 (853) was held at Crewe in case the 175 could only be assisted from the rear. The 175 was fixed by the driver and continued.
    57313 on 1D25 had earlier only managed to get to 40mph all the way from Crewe to Rhyl, and was held at Chester for a short time while it was decided what to do with the train. It continued to Rhyl where the Llandudno Junction standby – 57303 worked the train forward. 1R19 0538 Holyhead-Euston was cancelled from Holyhead this morning, presumably the ECS from Holyhead to Crewe last night did not return for 1R19.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, AJF, D1069, Gob, Riot, Roger Smith, David Wood.
    WEDNESDAY 17/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe
  • 47853=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47150=0Z25 0920 Basford Hall-Carlisle yard.
  • 47316=0G47 1615 Ipswich-Norwich Crown Point.
  • 47810=0A60 0509 Oxley-Rugby (with 830)/ 0Z40 0704 Rugby-Bletchley/ 0Z50 2028 Bletchley-Rugby/ 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden (with 830).
  • 47812 + 47829=6X54 2225 Selhurst-Bedford (began last night)/ 5Z11 1102 Bedford-Hornsey/ 5Z12 1419 Hornsey-Bedford.
  • 47813=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester/ 0P86 2049 Colchester-Norwich.
  • 47815=0A99 0520 Old Oak-Paddington/ 5A99 0736 Paddington-Old Oak/ 5C99 2114 Old Oak-Paddington/ 0C99 2358 Paddington-Old Oak.
  • 47826=0Z00 Willesden-Euston (arr 0630)/ 5R19 1800 Euston-Wembley.
  • 47830=0A60 0509 Oxley-Rugby (with 810)/ 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden (with 810).
  • 47840=0D32 0530 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D30 1356 Carstairs-Polmadie/ 0D35 1512 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D33 2306 Carstairs-Polmadie.
  • 47841=0Z70 0500 Longsight-Rugeley Trent Valley/ 0Z71 0633 Rugeley-Stafford/ 0Zxx Stafford-Carlisle (arr 1154).
  • 47843=0Z00 0150 Crewe LNWR-Basford Hall.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47150=see above. 47197=CreweLNWR. 47200=Ipswich. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(engine repairs). 47270=Ipswich. 47298=Crewe. 47303=CreweLNWR(repairs-cylinder liners). 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=see above. 47355=DerbyRTC(exam). 47358=Southampton Maritime(A exam). 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-heat exchanger). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47712=DerbyRTC(repairs-generator). 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-voltage regulator). 47805=Basford Hall(assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric on Thursday evening). 47810=see above. 47811=Landore. 47812=see above. 47813=see above. 47815=see above. 47816=Willesden(exam). 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=see above. 47828=Willesden(exam, off lease). 47829=see above. 47830=see above. 47832=Oxley. 47839=see above. 47840=see above. 47841=see above. 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall(repairs-coolant leak, still requires tyre turning at Crewe Electric). 47848=CreweLNWR(still on decision). 47851=Willesden(exam). 47853=see above. 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • Some interesting dates for the last time the ‘serviceable’ 47’s worked a train:
    47145 – 31/07
    47237 – 27/05
    47703 – 30/09
    47709 – 10/09
    47712 – 21/05
    47802 – 30/06
    47811 – summer
    47832 – 30/09
    47848 – April.
  • Saturdays VST charter from Canterbury to Par is now to be hauled by two Fragonset class 33’s, due to the train using the former Mid Hants Railway green set which can only be worked by Vacuum braked loco’s – and two Vacuum 47’s were not available (I thought 703 and 709 both had Vacuum brakes?. The tour was expected to leave Canterbury at 0443 on Saturday and was originally intended to run to Penzance but due to engineering works it had been changed to Par.
  • A NENTA railtour on Saturday 4th December surprisingly already has its timings in the system and is showing as departing Norwich at 0646 arriving at its destination of Newcastle at 1306, returning at 1647. The tour also stops at York, Durham (although anybody hoping for ‘part fares’ on the East Coast should remember that NENTA have charged £25/£30 for short distance part fares in the past!
  • 47/8 news…
    It is expected that Virgins 47/8’s will be returned to Porterbrook in this order: 47828, replaced by 57314. 47816 is next to go, having just been repaired. It will go when 57315 is accepted in to traffic. 47841 will be returned when 57316 enters traffic, and 47830 will go when the exhaust and ‘dellner’ coupler modifications to the 57’s are completed. The remaining four (810, 826, 840, 851) have been fitted with longer electric train supply (ETS) cables to power Pendolino’s when they are at a stand (and can drag them anyway with the ETS turned off).
    FGW’s pair, 811 and 815 are both expected to go to two different private operators who will be keeping them on the mainline, it was believed that 811 would be going to Virgin but this will now not happen as 816 was returned to traffic.
  • 1D84 left Crewe 23 minutes late (unknown reason), with 1D25 1655 Euston-Holyhead (57 hauled) leaving Crewe at 1937 (63 minutes earlier than 47853 on 1D84, and the 57 running just 19 minutes late from Crewe). The 57 left Rhyl at 2156 and the 47 left the same station at 2159!!! Somehow the 57 had lost 60 minutes between Chester and Rhyl! Needless to say 1D84 was further delayed and as at 23:20 (when this update was done) it was due to arrive at Holyhead at 2335, 32 minutes behind the 57. 1D84 should arrive there at Holyhead at 2218! 1D25 was just 100 minutes late at Bangor, but would've caught up some time across Anglesey as Virgin usually give their services far too long at the end of their journeys. Although the 47 was just three minutes behind the 57 at Rhyl, time was lost after Llandudno Junction and Bangor due to the long block sections at night time when several of the signal boxes are closed.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Blackwater, Gob, Riot, Tim Ward, and others.
    TUESDAY 16/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47197=0T45 1200 Basford Hall-Gresty Lane/ 8T45 1220 Gresty Lane-Basford Hall/ 8T45 1525 Basford Hall-Crewe LNWR.
  • 47200=4B36 0318 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 0B36 0359 Felixstowe-Ipswich.
  • 47358=4M73 2306 Ipswich-Ditton (began last night)/ 0K72 0621 Ditton-Basford Hall/ 0F92 1300 Basford Hall-Ditton/ 4L92 1350 Ditton-Ipswich to Basford Hall/ 4O06 2230 Trafford Park-Southampton Maritime from Basford Hall.
  • 47737 + 47773=dead in tow on 6E98 0327 Wembley-Wakefield (66133 hauling, 37688 + 37695 also dead on train)/ dead in tow on 6G85 1116 Doncaster Belmont Yard-Healey Mills (67021 hauling).
  • 47805=6Z49 0940 Basford Hall-Winsford/ dead on rear 6Z50 1532 Winsford-Derby RTC to Crewe/ worked 6Z50 from Crewe to Derby RTC/ 0Z50 1949 Derby RTC-Basford Hall.
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z11 1112 Bedford-Hornsey(829 leading)/ 5Z12 1419 Hornsey-Bedford/ 6X51 1734 Bedford-Selhurst/ 6X54 Selhurst-Bedford.
  • 47840=0D32 0530 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D30 1356 Carstairs-Polmadie/ 0D35 1512 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D33 2306 Carstairs-Polmadie.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47150=Basford Hall. 47197=see above. 47200=see above. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(engine repairs). 47270=Ipswich(repairs until 2050). 47298=Crewe(DRS spare). 47303=CreweLNWR(repairs-cylinder liners). 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=Ipswich. 47355=DerbyRTC. 47358=see above. 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-heat exchanger). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47712=DerbyRTC(repairs-generator). 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(repairs-voltage regulator). 47805=see above. 47810=Oxley. 47811=Landore. 47812=see above. 47813=Colchester. 47815=Old Oak Common. 47816=Bletchley. 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=Bletchley. 47828=Willesden(exam, off lease). 47829=see above. 47830=Oxley. 47832=Oxley. 47839=see above. 47840=see above. 47841=Longsight. 47843=CreweLNWR(inspection following ‘derailment’). 47847=Basford Hall(repairs-coolant leak, still requires tyre turning at Crewe Electric). 47848=CreweLNWR(still on decision). 47851=Rugby. 47853=CreweLNWR. 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • In answer to my question on Monday on how 47715 got from Derby to York NRM, it was hauled to York NRM by 45112 on Thursday 11/11/04 in the following formation: 45112+D6700+47715+47355 (355 on rear with engine running to keep air throughout the loco's) and it ran as 0Z59 1000 Derby-York (although nearly an hour late).
    47715 unfortunately did not work trains as was planned on the Saturday due to a brake fault. 45112 was for display on the turntable, D6700 was returned to York after Fragonset had repaired its collision damage and 47355 was only on the train so the train crew could return in it to Derby. The loco’s went there as part of the NRM’s ‘Cab-It’ event, and was joined by FGW’s 47815.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Gob, Gwot, Neil, Selby, Sid, Spin, Paul Beardsley, Ralf Edge, Roger Smith.
    MONDAY 15/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47200 + 47316=0Z47 1105 Old Oak Common-Ipswich.
  • 47298=0Z25 1715 Carlisle Kingmoor-Crewe DRS.
  • 47309=0B32 0915 Southampton Maritime-Marchwood Military Port/ 4B32 1002 Marchwood-Southampton Maritime/ 0B34 1046 Southampton-Marchwood/ 4B34 1136 Marchwood-Southampton.
  • 47358=4S59 1529 Southampton Maritime-Coatbridge to Basford Hall.
  • 47737 + 47773=0Z27 1000 Temple Mills-Wembley Yard dead in tow behind xxxxx.
  • 47805=0Z47 0507 Basford Hall-Derby RTC/ 6Z47 0732 Derby RTC-Hellifield/ 6Z48 1219 Hellifield-Derby RTC (via Carlisle).
  • 47812 + 47829=5Z10 0833 Rugby-Bedford (829 hauling)/ 5Z11 1018 Befdford-Hornsey (829 hauling)/ 5Z12 1419 Hornsey-Bedford to Cricklewood (812 hauling).
  • 47815=0Z47 1615 York NRM-Old Oak Common (via Derby and Midland Mainline).
  • 47840=Carstairs standby/ rescued 6S50 1604 Carlisle-Millerhill from Beattock (90024 failed).
  • 47841=0F26 0122 Liverpool-Edge Hill/ 0H26 0515 Edge Hill-Longsight.
  • 47854 + 57601 dead on rear=5Z24 0655 Blackburn-Carnforth (actually started at Preston).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=Derby. 47150=Basford Hall. 47197=Basford Hall(exam). 47200=see above. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(engine repairs). 47270=Ipswich(repairs until 2050). 47298=Crewe(DRS spare). 47303=CreweLNWR(repairs-cylinder liners). 47309=see above. 47316=see above. 47355=Derby. 47358=see above.

    news:

  • Apologies to those awaiting the answer to the ‘guess the location’ photo, it was of 47789 attached to a Preston-Euston drag having replaced 47792 which had failed at BOLTON (I think every email received got the location right!) on Sunday 18th October 2001 (only one person got the date right!) The names of those who got it right will be listed here soon, and some of the wrong guesses.
    47815 returned south on Monday afternoon to Old Oak Common alone.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, D1069, Gwot, Spin, Alan Crawshaw, Pete Norrell, Martin Taylor.
    SUNDAY 14/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47810=1A35 1011 Preston-Crewe/ 1P14 1228 Crewe-Preston/ 1A54 1415 Preston-Crewe/ 1P22 2012 Crewe-Preston.
  • 47841=1P16 1412 Crewe-Preston/ 1A64 1615 Preston-Crewe/ 1F26 2339 Crewe-Liverpool.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47810=5A35 0750 Longsight-Preston/ see above/ 5G22 2215 Preston-Oxley to Crewe.
  • 47816=5B14 0759 Oxley-Bushbury Jct/ 0T14 0820 Bushbury-Oxley/ various Oxley ECS Pendolino drags.
  • 47826=5B20 0859 Oxley-Bushbury Jct/ 0T20 0920 Bushbury-Oxley/ various Oxley ECS Pendolino drags.
  • 47840=0D37 1136 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D38 1736 Carstairs-Polmadie/ 0D39 1824 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D31 2330 Carstairs-Polmadie.
  • 47841=0Z20 0840 Oxley-Crewe/ see above/ 0F26 0122 Liverpool-Edge Hill.
  • 47851=5H00 1540 Preston-Longsight (dragging 390041 which failed before working 1S06 1423 Preston-Glasgow).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=DerbyRTC. 47150=Basford Hall. 47197=Basford Hall. 47200=Old Oak Common. 47270=Ipswich. 47298=Carlisle Kingmoor. 47303=CreweLNWR. 47309=Southampton Maritime. 47316=Old Oak Common. 47355=Derby. 47358=Southampton Maritime. 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor. 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47714=Norwich(A exam). 47805=Basford Hall. 47810=see above. 47811=Landore. 47812=Basford Hall. 47813=Norwich. 47815=St Phillips Marsh. 47816=see above. 47818=Norwich(exam). 47826=see above. 47829=Basford Hall. 47830=Oxley. 47832=Oxley. 47839=Holyhead(spare). 47840=see above. 47841=see above. 47843=Basford Hall. 47847=Basford Hall(exam). 47851=see above. 47853=CreweLNWR. 47854=Preston. 57301=Stafford/1F15(mk3 set). 57302=1A29/1P20/1A77. 57303=5T49 Longsight-Liverpool/1A70. 57305=1A39. 57306=Carlisle. 57307=Loughborough. 57308=1A44. 57309=Wembley. 57310=1A49/1F19. 57311=Stafford/1D25 Crewe-Holyhead(mk3 set). 57312=Loughborough. 57313=Willesden(failure). 57314=Longsight. 57602/604=Laira. 57603/605=Old Oak.

    news:

  • Some of the northbound drags were slightly retimed to depart Crewe later as they traveled via Stoke and Alsager (as they did last week). Times above include altered timings.
  • At 2130 a Pendolino was seen in Preston with 57302 attached to the front, the Pendolino was in complete darkness with passengers aboard waiting to depart with the delayed 1A77 2010 service to London Euston! The first Euston-Liverpool (1F11) and 15xx return working were cancelled due to there being no train to form the service.

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, Leeds Chicken, Spin, Graham Morris.
    SATURDAY 13/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2020 Cre-Hol.
  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47200 + 47316 in multi=1Z25 0700 Ealing Broadway-Plymouth to Bristol TM/ 1Z24 1645 Plymouth-Ealing Broadway from BTM.
  • 47854=1Zxx Rose Grove-Dundee/ dead on rear of return (57601 hauled).

    location/ standby’s this morning:

    news:

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, David Moorcraft, Patrick Perry, Solomon Riley.
    FRIDAY 12/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47200 + 47316=0Z47 1257 Ipswich-Old Oak Common (for Saturday railtour).

    location/ standby’s this morning:

    news:

    thanks for todays news to:

    Big Bird, Gob, Gwot.
    THURSDAY 11/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

    location/ standby’s this morning:

  • 47815 was seen heading through Huddersfield at 2pm.

    news: 47810=Longsight. 47811=Landore. 47815=York. 47816=Willesden. 47826=Rugby. 47830=Willesden. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=Carstairs. 47841=Willesden. 47851=Stafford. 47853=see above.

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, Riot, Sam Dilworth.
    WEDNESDAY 10/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol to Chester (see news).

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47197=0T45 0330 Basford Hall-Gresty Lane/ 8T45 0400 Gresty Lane-Basford Hall.
  • 47270=4M73 2306 Ipswich-Ditton (last night)/ 0K72 0621 Ditton-Basford Hall/ 4L75 1004 Trafford Park-Ipswich from Basford Hall to Nuneaton (failed).
  • 47805=4M45 0440 Ipswich-Ditton from Basford Hall.
  • 47826=0Z40 0500 Willesden-Rugby. 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden.
  • 47829 + 47843 dead on rear=5Z11 1102 Bedford-Hornsey.
  • 47840=0D32 0532 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D30 1356 Carstairs-Polmadie/ 0D35 1512 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D33 2306 Carstairs-Polmadie.
  • 47843 + 47829 dead on rear=6X54 2225 Selhurst-Bedford last night (then 5Z11 above).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=DerbyRTC. 47150=Basford Hall. 47197=see above/then Basford Hall(exam). 47200=Ipswich. 47237=Carlisle Kingmoor(out of traffic – engine repairs). 47270=see above. 47298=Carlisle Kingmoor. 47303=CreweLNWR(exam, repairs to cylinder liners/seals). 47309=Southampton Millbrook(shunter). 47316=Ipswich(on hire to Freightliner). 47355=Derby station. 47358=Basford Hall(out of traffic – air brake controllers). 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor. 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47712=DerbyRTC(main generator repairs). 47714=Norwich(green circle multi fitting). 47802=Carlisle Kingmoor(out of traffic – voltage regulator). 47805=see above(assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric today). 47810=Longsight. 47811=Landore(repairs). 47812=CreweLNWR(assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric today). 47813=Colchester. 47815=St Phillips Marsh. 47816=Willesden(exam). 47818=Norwich(B exam). 47826=see above. 47828=Willesden(exam?!?). 47829=see above. 47830=Willesden(exam). 47832=Oxley. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=see above. 47841=Willesden(exam). 47843=see above. 47847=Basford Hall(out of traffic – coolant leak, assigned for tyre turning at Crewe Electric on 12/11). 47848=CreweLNWR(still on decision). 47851=Longsight. 47853=see above. 47854=Carnforth.

    news:

  • As at 13:30, 47813 was expected to work 1P58 1930 Liverpool St-Norwich due to a fault on DBSO number 9714.
  • 47853 was cancelld on 1D75 at Chester following "multiple carriage defects". 1D75 left Crewe 23m late. A 158 was used to work 1D75 from Chester. 853 reversed with the stock around Chester depot triangle and was awaiting a return to Crewe at 5pm.
  • 47815 worked 0Z47 1535 Old Oak-St Phillips Marsh yesterday, presumably alone.
    Tomorrow (Thursday) 47815 will work (light engine) from St Phillips Marsh to York NRM for the previously mentioned event, travelling via Crewe and leaving the Bristol depot at 0500.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47417, Gob, Gwot, Riot, Spin, Jon Barlowski, Richard Boyd, Martin Taylor, Keith Webber.
    TUESDAY 09/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47815=1A99 2200 Penzance-Paddington last night.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe.
  • 47853=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.
  • 57603=1C99 2350 Paddington-Penzance tonight.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47270=4R46 0614 Ipswich-Felixstowe/ 4R01 0815 Felixstowe-Ipswich.
  • 47358=0K38 0503 Garston-Basford Hall/ 4M45 0440 Ipswich-Ditton (from Basford Hall).
  • 47813=0F03 0451 Norwich-Colchester.
  • 47829 + 47843=5Z11 1102 Bedford-Hornsey.
  • 47851=0Z70 0500 Longsight-Stafford/ 0Z72 Stafford-Longsight.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810/851=Longsight. 47811=Landore. 47815=see above/then Old Oak. 47816/826/830/841=Willesden. 47839=see above. 47840=Polmadie. 47853=see above.

    news:

  • For those of you that don’t currently know, the 18th December Compass Tour was cancelled as Merlin Rail could not provide staff for the date after initially saying they could. A replacement tour is running on Bank Holiday Tuesday 28th December beginning from the West Midlands to Carlisle and calling at Codsall, Shifnal, Telford Central, Wellington, Shrewsbury, Wem, Whitchurch, Nantwich, and Crewe. The tour continues north via the S & C to Carlisle. Return journey is via the WCML.
    More details are available at the Compass Tours website (click on ‘programme’ and then the 28th December date). Prices are £37 standard and £57 first class. After newspaper advertising this tour is booking quickly so any enthusiasts interested in booking seats are advised to ring 01472 870 968 (between 15:30 and 20:30) to reserve their seats. Two Cotswold Rail 47’s will be used. 47714 is currently being fitted with ‘green circle’ multiple working equipment and will be able to work in multi with 47033, 200, 316 or 365. 47813 and 47818 are expected to be fitted, as are Fragonset’s 47703, 47709, 47712 and 47832.
  • 47839 worked 1D84 last night, it is not known where it took over from the 158 or 175 that covered the duty but Chester on 1K78 is a likely choice.

    thanks for todays news to:

    Gob, Gwot, Riot, Alan Crawshaw, Sam Felce, Keith Webber.
    MONDAY 08/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47815=1C99 2350 Paddington-Penzance last night/ 1A99 2200 Penzance-Paddington tonight.
  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre to Chester (see news)/ 1D84 2017 Crewe-Holyhead, from Crewe/Chester?.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47358=4K80 Lawley St-Basford Hall/ 4M73 Basford Hall-Garston.
  • 47810=0Zxx Oxley-Longsight (late evening).
  • 47826=0Z40 0500 Willesden-Rugby/ 0Z50 2147 Rugby-Willesden.
  • 47840=0D35 1512 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D33 2306 Carstairs-Polmadie.
  • 47851=0Z70 0517 Longsight-Rugeley Trent Valley/ 0Z71 0633 Rugeley-Stafford/ 0Z72 2155 Stafford-Longsight.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47145=DerbyRTC. 47150=Basford Hall. 47197=Mossend. 47200=Ipswich. 47270=Ipswich. 47298=Carlisle Kingmoor. 47303=CreweLNWR(exam). 47309=Southampton Maritime(shunter). 47316=Ipswich. 47355=Derby station. 47358=Lawley St(4K80). 47501=Carlisle Kingmoor(exam). 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47714=Norwich(exam). 47805=CreweLNWR. 47810=Oxley. 47812=CreweLNWR. 47813=Norwich(exam). 47815=see above. 47816=Willesden. 47818=Norwich(exam). 47826=see above. 47829=Rugby. 47830=Willesden(traction motor repairs). 47832=Oxley. 47839=see above. 47840=see above. 47841=Willesden. 47843=Rugby. 47847=Basford Hall. 47851=see above. 47853=CreweLNWR(exam).

    news:

  • 47815 is expected to go to the York NRM sometime this week for the an event on Saturday and Sunday. Its cab will be open and available to look around.
  • 1K67 was cancelled at Chester due to the drivers side windscreen wiper on 839 having snapped. A 175 began 1D75 from Chester and continued the diagram.

    thanks for todays news to:

    47829, Matthew, Spin, Paul Gleave 47539, Steve G, Sam Felce, S.Jones, Roger Smith.
    SUNDAY 07/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47810=1P22 2010 Crewe-Preston.
  • 47851=1A44 1219 Preston-Crewe/ 1P18 1612 Crewe-Preston/ 1A73 1811 Preston-Crewe/ 1P24 2210 Crewe-Preston.
  • 175002=1D67 2035 Crewe-Holyhead.
  • 175107=1K53 1000 Holyhead-Crewe.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47105=1600 Toddington-Cheltenham Racecourse/ 1650 Cheltenham Racecourse-Toddington.
  • 47810=see above/ 5G22 2215 Preston-Oxley.
  • 47815=0C99 2009 Old Oak HST-Old Oak CS/ 5C99 2044 Old Oak CS-Paddington/ 0C99 0002 Padd-Old Oak HST.
  • 47826=0Z40 0825 Euston-Rugby/ 0Z40 1055 Rugby-Bletchley.
  • 47840=0D37 1136 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D38 1736 Carstairs-Polmadie/ 0D39 1824 Polmadie-Carstairs/ 0D31 2330 Carstairs-Polmadie.
  • 47851=5A44 1022 Longsight-Preston/ see above/ 5H25 2359 Preston-Longsight.
  • 47853=5Zxx Derby-Crewe LNWR (ex tour yesterday).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=see above. 47811=Landore(exam). 47815=see above. 47826=see above. 47830=Willesden(exam). 47839=Holyhead(spare). 47840=see above. 47841=Willesden(exam). 47851=see above. 47853=see above. 57301/304/305/310/314=Edge Hill(for drags). 57302/313=Oxley(ECS). 57303=Willesden(exam). 57306/311=Longsight. 57307/312=Loughborough. 57308=Longsight(exam). 57309=Willesden.

    news:

  • As you will be aware a First Great Western HST was involved in a fatal accident with a vehicle on a level crossing while working the 1735 Paddington-Plymouth on Saturday night. The collision resulted in the very unfortunate loss of life to the driver of the HST and a number of passengers plus the occupants of the car/van. I will not mention any details of the incident as most of it seems to be unconfirmed so far, but I know all of us this weekend will have spared a few thoughts for the lives that have been lost in what was such an unfortunate accident.
  • 47816 has been reinstated (although has yet to leave Willesden). 47811 seems to be a direct replacement for the now off lease 47828, and as a result of a 57 being sent to Dawlish in the near future as a Voyager rescue standby. 816 had been withdrawn to minor fire damage to its battery cases.

    thanks for todays news to:

    Crumb, Leeds Chicken, Gob, Sid, Steve G, Steve Kibble, Martin Taylor, other sources.
    SATURDAY 06/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1Z93 2002 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47853=1Z47 0804 Lichfield City-Bath via Swindon/ 5Z48 1223 Bath-St Phillips Marsh/ 5Z48 1720 St Phillips Marsh-Bath/ 1Z48 1810 Bath-Lichfield City (via Swindon).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Llandudno Junction!. 47815=Old Oak. 47816=Willesden. 47826=Euston. 47830=Willesden. 47840=Motherwell. 47841=Bletchley. 47851=Longsight.

    news:

  • 47839 worked 1Z93 instead of 1D84 due to various diagram swapping following 67’s working down the Marches to Cardiff in place of 158s.
  • 47853 worked the above charter due to no Freightliner 47/8’s being made available. The tour was not a generally available charter as it was a school outing. On arrival at Bath it worked ECS to St Phillips Marsh and the tour itself ran via Swindon.
  • 47197 was today used on a Mossend-Edinburgh route learner, running as 0Z11. It worked from Mossend and travelled via Motherwell, Carstairs, Slateford, Edinburgh suburban, Waverley, Falkirk High, Cowlairs, Stepps, and finished back at Mossend.
  • 47710, 712, 715 and 375 were seen at Derby's Fragonset depot with 145 and 355 in the station siding.

    thanks for todays news to:

    A, D1069, Gob, Sid, Steve Kibble, Graham Morris, Jamie Squibbs.
    FRIDAY 05/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47805=4X72 Old Dalby-Wembley (with 390001).
  • 47847=dead in tow on 4M26 1441 Dagenham Dock-Gresty Lane.

    location/ standby’s this morning:

    news:

    thanks for todays news to:

    Sid, Roger Smith.
    THURSDAY 04/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47853=5Z74 0713 Crewe Carriage Shed-Cardiff Canton/ 5Z42 xxxx Cardiff Canton-Crewe Carriage Shed ('Valleys' stock swap).

    location/ standby’s this morning:

    news:

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Riot.
    WEDNESDAY 03/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47839=1D65 1017 Crewe-Holyhead/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol.
  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe.

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47197=5Zxx Eastleigh-Laira/ 5Z51 1644 Laira-St Phillips Marsh.
  • 57314 + 47826 + 47810=0Z13 1035 Polmadie-Willesden (both 47's were failures and 810 was picked up at Carstairs).

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47358=Lawley St. 47703=Oxley. 47709=Oxley. 47714=Norwich(exam). 47805=Basford Hall. 47810=Polmadie. 47811=LANDORE(exam). 47812=CreweLNWR(exam). 47813=Colchester. 47815=Old Oak(ECS). 47816=Willesden(off lease). 47818=Ilford. 47826=Polmadie. 47828=Willesden(off lease). 47829=Bedford. 47830=Willesden(exam). 47832=Oxley. 47840=Carlisle. 47841=Willesden(exam). 47843=Bedford. 47847=Basford Hall(failure). 47851=Longsight.

    news:

  • Further info about the Preston-Glasgow charter on 27th November has been received, forwarded to me from the 'Morecambe Visitor' newspaper:
    "THE LUNE HABITAT CHRISTMAS SHOPPER SPECIAL (Helping to restore the wildlife of the River Lune) Travel from Carnforth to Glasgow in style, also picking up at Preston, Lancaster and Oxenholme."
    Organized by Carnforth's WCRC - 01524 732100 (so when they say style one would assume that 57601 is not going to work the tour?! ok I retract that comment seeing as 826 and 810 were hauled south by a 57. Hmm!)
  • 47811 is still in Landore. A mobile crane was used on the morning of the 19th of October to lift in its replcement engine. 811 ended up in the running shed without roof panels because the maintenance shed was full.
  • Re: a comment on Deiniol Williams Railhead North Wales website regarding 839 and a lack of nameplates. It was suggested a while back that Riviera were intending to name the loco. Deiniol's comment that it could be named after something relevant to north Wales isn't too far off the mark as when it was a Virgin loco it was to be named 'RAF Valley' after the Anglesey air base - and reports suggest that the nameplates were cast (by Newton Replica's I think). The loco passes RAF Valley more now than it did as a Virgin loco but the current contract between Riviera and Arriva Trains Wales is thought to be only until Saturday 11th December of this year.

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Gob, Gwot, Leeds Chicken, Riot, Sid, Russ Evans, John Lancaster, Dorian Porter.
    TUESDAY 02/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol (8m late Rhyl).

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47316=4M52 0209 Ipswich-Hamshall/ 4L93 1008 Lawley Street-Ipswich.
  • 47358=4M58 1145 Southampton Maritime-Trafford Park.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Carstairs. 47815=Old Oak(ECS). 47826=Polmadie. 47830=Willesden. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=Carlisle. 47841=Bletchley. 47851=Lonsight. 47853=CreweLNWR.

    news:

  • Regarding the story yesterday of the future use of 37408 and 37411 by ATW. This would seem to be a direct result of the 175008 fire (carriage 79708 and not 50708 as previously mentioned) to relieve one class 158 so ATW can provide FNW and FTE with the relevant number of 175's. Ironically 175008 (named Valhalla after the Blackpool Pleasure Beach water based ride, which is named after a heavenly Viking place!) was removed from Preston today by WCRC's 37197 and 37261 to Preston Docks of all places, but the suggested rumours that it was destined for the Atlantic Ocean were confirmed as untrue(!) as a low loader was expected to remove the vehicles.
    Anyway, the relevance of all this (yes there is some somewhere!) is that the 37 turn is to start imminently and is in addition to the ATW 47 turn.
  • Regarding a different story yesterday about 47811. Surprisingly it has been confirmed that this loco is to remain under Porterbrook ownership and be used by Virgin before the end of the year as mentioned on www.wnxx.com yesterday.
  • Unusually only two of the current Virgin West Coast 47's are south of Longsight at the moment, with two in Scotland and one on the border! Since the timetable change Virgin West Coast services are not allowed to be dragged by diesel loco's (including 57's) anywhere south of Crewe due to the speeded up Pendolino timetable unless it is to remove a train causing an obstruction. Saturdays and Sundays are a different matter due to engineering works - hence 841 (not 810, sorry) and 816 worked into Euston two Saturdays ago.

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Gob, Gwot, Riot, Sid, James Hawkes, Pete Norrell, Steve Rogers.
    MONDAY 01/11/04

    booked passenger train allocations:

  • 47853=1K57 0741 Holyhead-Crewe/ 1D65 1017 Cre-Hol/ 1K67 1241 Hol-Cre/ 1D75 1517 Cre-Hol/ 1K78 1735 Hol-Cre/ 1D84 2017 Cre-Hol (on time).

    other allocations and workings:

  • 47847 + 47805=dead in tow behind 66529 on 4M26 1441 Dagenham-Gresty Lane.

    location/ standby’s this morning:
    47810=Carlisle. 47815=Old Oak(ECS). 47826=Carstairs. 47830=Willesden. 47839=CreweLNWR. 47840=Stafford. 47841=Bletchley. 47851=Longsight. 47853=see above.

    news:

  • 47851 hauling 1D25/1R19 was caused by this service being a mk3 set all week vice Pendolino. When this train is a Pendolino the service has to run back ECS to Crewe from Holyhead and back again during the night, as the 57's are not supposed to be switched off - leaving the Pendolino with no power. Rumoured to be because the 57's make too much noise (and not a pleasant noise at that) they are not allowed to stay at Holyhead, thus when on a loco hauled set the 57 can be turned off. More logically it seems that Virgin are quite simply not permitted to stable a 390 there yet. After two nights of 57308 working the train on Monday and Tuesday of last week, 851 worked Wednesday and Thursday, with another 57 hauling the train on Friday night.
    Hasn’t anybody thought of refurbishing/rebuilding a 47 to 57 standards, and leaving a reconditioned Sulzer power unit inside?
  • 47810, 47826, 47840 and 47841 have been fitted with longer ETS cables to enable them to connect to a class 390 to test the train supply. These 47’s can power a 390 when standing still, but cannot when under power. 47816 (with a minor electrical fire) and 47828 (with very poor tyres) are now not to be used, although have not been officially stored – still being in the ATSP pool. 47830 and 47851 are expected to be the last two 47’s to be removed from service after 57315 and 57316 are released from Loughborough.
  • 47811 is still expected to move to a charter operator.
  • From Monday 13th December it has been rumoured that the former S+C top'n'tail through working 37's and four carriages will be working a Manchester/Crewe-Cardiff diagram on Mon-Sats. Whether this is in place of the Riviera 47/8's in north Wales or in addition to is not yet known. Adding fuel to the 37 rumour is the fact that the Arriva liveried set with 37408 and 37411 will be working additionals this weekend between Cardiff and Gloucester.
  • Pendolino's have returned to the Holyhead Virgin service this week.

    thanks for todays news to:

    D1069, Gob, Riot, Sid, S Griff.

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